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www.shamansociety.org17Hungarianpsycho-oncologistMagdaRohanszkytalkswithShamanicPractitionerDianaDenkeaboutherlongstandingpracticeinbringingaspiritualaspecttoconventionalcancertreatment.WhendidyoufirstcomeintocontactwithshamanismImusthavebeenaround40andformeitwasaperiodofchange.Ihadtodecidewhichwaytogowhethertocontinuetodoexecutivecoachingandtrainingsforbigcorporationsalong-sideofmyconventionalpsychotherapypractice.Orinsteadtoincludeaspiritualelementandmakehealingmypath.ThiswasthetimewhenIbegantogetinterestedinmetaphysicslearnedBachflowertherapyandmetshamanism.ShamanismcausedmealotoftroubleIthasalwaysbeenofutmostimportanceformetocom-prehendcausalitytoseethelinksbetweenphenomenaandtogainunderstanding.IhadamaterialisticapproachtolifeanditcausedmeenormousdifficultytotakeinsomethingthatIdidntunderstand.MyteacherJonathanHorwitzhadasubstantialroleinmyintegrationofshamanism.HewasgivingworkshopsinHungarytwoorthreetimesayearthenandIwasorganizingthem.Therewasabigresistanceinmeatthetimetowardsreligionmostlybutalsotowardspirituality.Iwasntreallyconsideringthedifferencebetweenreligionandspirituality.ThenImetBud-dhismandalmostsimultaneouslyshamanismandsomethingstartedtoslowlychange.ShamanismasJonathanshareditofferedaverypurepath.Onethatconnectedmewithmyownpowersandthatofferedtoconsciouslybuildandstrengthenthemwiththehelpofmyspirits.HowdoesshamanismfitintoyourpsychotherapeuticworkAsapsychologistItrytofindascientificexplanationandunderstandingforthephenomenonexperienced.WhileinmyshamanicworkIcomeintodirectcontactwiththepowersofnatureandthehappeningsofthehiddenworldthatisaroundus.InfactitismostlyconceptualormethodologicaldifferencesthatIcomeacrossbetweenpsychotherapyandshamanismbutessentiallytheyareaboutthesamethingempoweringpeopleunlockingtheirpotentialsothattheycanbemastersoftheirownlives.BecauseIworkasapsychotherapistshamaniccounselingfitsthebestwithmyapproach.Thismethodhelpstheclientstobedisciplinedandfocused.Itenablesustogodeepquickly.Howeverthemostdifficultphaseisthelastonewhentheinsightfromthejourneysareputintopracticeindailylife.Thisisalsothemostdifficultpartofthepsychotherapeuticprocess.Manytimesthisisthepointwhentheworkfailsthereisagoodmissionformulationasuccessfuljourneythekeyteachingsareunlockedandunderstood-butitisneverputintopracticeTellmeaboutyourworkwithFirebirdFirebirdwasbornsomeeighteenyearsagoonthefirstsha-maniccounselingcoursethatIattended.Iwasinaverydifficultlifesituationatthetime.Lookingbackitwasamid-lifecrisisIwouldsay.Inoneofthejourneysmyspirithelpersdismemberedmeandthrewmeintothefire.Icametobere-bornfromtheflamesjustlikeaFirebirdthePhoenix.CominghomeIcontemplatedhowtointegratethequalityoftheFirebirdintomylife.Firebirdfirstcameintolifeasacrisiscenterforthemiddle-aged.Ithostedindividualtherapysessionsshamaniccounselingandcoursesforself-development.Itofferedanopportunityforpatientstore-definethemselvestoletgooftheoldandtostartanew.Thenin2001IwascontactedbyaProfessorofOncologywhoinvitedmetoworkasapsycho-oncologistinhiscancerward.IaskedfortimetothinkitthroughandtraveledtoIndia.TheoneandahalfmonthsspentinIndiawasabiglearningexperienceaboutmyself.IfoundmyselfinacompletelynewenvironmentcomparedtotheoneIgrewupinandlivedinuntilthatpoint.IlearnedhowvulnerableIcouldbecomewhenfacedwithsituationswheredifferentrulesapply.SHAMANICPRACTICEFirebirdWorkingShamanicallywithCancerPatientsDianaDenketalkswithMagadaRohanszky